Friday, 23 March 2012

Sonnet 130

After reading Sonnet 130, what did you find strange about this poem? What images stood out for you?

14 comments:

  1. The description Shakespeare is giving about his mistress are all negative. There is no positive comment about her such as he says 'Than in the breath that from my mistress reeks.' this quote tells me that her breath is horrible that is smells.
    the images that came into my head were of the horrible mistress that was being described in the sonnet. I could picture her talking and everyone moving away because her breath smells. I can picture her hairs as wires by the quote 'If hairs be wires, black wires grow on her head.' this is a strong quote because he says if hairs were wires, they are growing on her hair.

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  2. Shakespeare starts the poem by describing his mistress the opposite she is ,he says that ‘My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun’ which gives me an image of his mistresses eyes being dull and nothing compared to the sun so she doesn’t have attractive eyes .he also says I have seen roses damasked, red and white, But no such roses see I in her cheeks’ he is saying that he has seen roses in a combination of different colours such as red, white but he doesn’t see any colours on her cheeks which means that she is pale ,she doesn’t have any combination of colours on her cheeks .but towards the end of the poem he starts being positive and compares her to a goddess and how his love is rare which means that he loves her .

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  3. Shakespeare has various amounts of comparisons made on his beauty. He uses quotes like : Her eyes are “nothing like the sun”,her lips are less red than coral; compared to white snow, her breasts are dun-colored, and her hairs are like black wires on her head. The one positive thing in the whole poem some part of his mistress is like. In the lines after he says 'the breath that “reeks” from his mistress is less delightful than perfume' which again is a use of comparisons. In the last bit he admits that, though he loves her voice, music “hath a far more pleasing sound,” and that, though he has never seen a goddess which makes her more special than he is. This creates the effect of an expanding and developing argument, and neatly prevents the poem.

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  4. shackspear decribes his mistress as very unpleasing. he say "Than in the breath that from my mistress reeks" which means that his mistress has a horrid breath. this gives me an image that she is not clean or as nice to be with. he also says "I love to hear her speak, yet well I know That music hath a far more pleasing sound" this image stood out to me as he does not like the way his mistress talks which is very weird. but when he finishs of his poem he set a mellow note by saying "And yet, by heaven, I think my love as rare As any she belied with false compare"and this is where he say that any women have been misrepresented and that where it stood out to me as he starts of with a negative remarks about his mistress and then ends with calm finish about women.

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  5. sonnet 130 is humorous parody of the typical love sonnet. I think the message of the poem is simple:'the dark lady's beauty' cannot be compared to the beauty of a goddess or that it can not be found in nature,because she's only a 'mortal'(human being)
    In contrast Shakespeare makes no attempt at comparing her to a goddess; in fact he ignores it outright, as we see in lines 11-12: "I grant I never saw a goddess go”( My mistress, when she walks, treads on the ground.) Here the poet clearly states that his mistress is not a goddess.
    She is also not as beautiful as things found in nature, : "My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun; / Coral is far more red than her lips' red."and in the closing couplet says that in fact she is just as extraordinary ("rare") as any woman described with such exaggerated or false comparisons.(" And yet by heaven, I think my love as rare,/As any she belied with false compare.")

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  6. He seems more to insult her than anything.
    shakespeare is exploring into a much more honest image and portrayal of the love he has for his mistress.His metaphors are insensitive, and not typically flowery or poetic. He is trying to point out that truth, and he believes his love to be true, does not truly come in the shape of false flattery.
    one thing i find weird is that he describes her beauty; coral red lips, perfumed breath or snow white breasts. But instead his love goes beyond the need for flattery "false compare"

    He is saying true love is not about seeing what's beautiful in your lover, it is about accepting what is human in them an loving all the more for it, not in spite of it

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  7. Shakespeare uses many comparisons between his mistress and other, more beautiful things such as "If hairs be wires, black wires grow on her head". in Shakespeare's time, a wire was a thin golden-brown (similar to the colour of blonde)thread, so Shakespeare is saying that his mistress's hair is black and not blonde.at the end of the poem, he says that "And yet, by heaven, I think my love as rare as any she belied with false compare." which means that most women are similar to this and there aren't many people with eyes like the sun,cheeks the colour of coral or breath that smells like perfume.

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  8. shakespeare seems to describe his mistress in a negative way and sort of insulting her.Instead of shakespear just describing his mistress like a perfect model and flatterying her with "false compare" he writes an honest description about her this give me an impression that shakespear belives in true love and honesty.He uses metaphors to discribe his mistress for example "My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun" this is strange to me as its a negative decription because its like shakespear is insulting her rather than complmenting her anthor example of this negative desrcription is 'Coral is far more red than her lips'.The image that stood out for me was when shakespear said And in some perfumes is there more delight Than in the breath that from my mistress reeks this gave an imagery and sese of her breath and made me imagine that when ever people go past her they would cover the mouth or spray perfume after she goes and also make me sick just thinking about it.

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  9. I am very impressed with your comments Year 10! The main idea running through the poem is that people do not need to be beautiful to be loved or to be in love. Shakespeare is poking fun at(making a parody) the traditional content of sonnets and how much they exaggerate emotions to do with love. Well done guys!


    During the Elizabethan times fashionable woman would spend time and money on looking trying to look beautiful. The Elizabethans believed that beautiful women were blue eyed, fair-haired, pale skinned with red lips. This sonnet mocks the traditional love sonnets by suggesting that it is ridiculous to compare someone to something, which is beautiful because you may be left disappointed if you find your lover does not measure up to what they are being compared to.

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  10. Just to clarify the meaning of 'reek', during the Elizabethan period this word meant no smell, whereas today it means that something has a foul smell.

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  11. Shakespeare is deiscribing his mistress as in a negative way,
    You can tell that he doesn't really like his mistress from the first line as he say
    "My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun;"
    From this we can learn that Shakespeare is saying that his mistress' eyes don't stand out like the sun.
    He is using metaphors, one example of the metaphors he's using is : "If hairs be wires, black wires grow on her head."

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  12. This is a strange poem of Shakespeare because it kind of sounds as if she is an enemy or something.
    Everything is negative. Words such as "blood" and "civil" makes me think of a medieval war.
    'Death mark'd love' sounds as if Romeo and Juliet's love has 'died' (this could mean divorce if they were alive)

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  13. Ms Correia-Pinto, many thanks for showing me this innovative use of technology to inspire your students in responding to the poetry. I am very impressed and wish your student the very best as I am sure they will have given the guidance you are giving them.
    Mrs Manderson

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  14. Shakespeare has various amounts of comparisons made on his beauty. He uses quotes like : Her eyes are “nothing like the sun”,her lips are less red than coral; compared to white snow, her breasts are dun-colored, and her hairs are like black wires on her head. He is using metaphors, one example of the metaphors he's using is : "If hairs be wires, black wires grow on her head". You can tell that he doesn't really like his mistress from the first line as he say
    "My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun;". "My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun" this is strange to me as its a negative description because its like shakespear is insulting her rather than complmenting her another example of this negativity is 'Coral is far more red than her lips'.The image that stood out for me was when shakespear said And in some perfumes is there more delight Than in the breath that from my mistress reeks this gave an imagery and sese of her breath and made me imagine that when ever people go past her they would cover the mouth or spray perfume after she goes and also make me sick just thinking about it.

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